However, there are plenty of other reasons to acquire a SP2022 aside from the choices of our Gallic brethren. The P320 has not been around long enough to establish a truly solid reputation, yet Sig is pushing it as hard, if not harder than the P250. I like it. I was holding a 226 in my hands at the local gun store. The accuracy aspect left me questioning. Paid a 1000 bucks for 1911, never shot it just worked the slide and the frame was cutting into the slide. Can it take the Short Reset Trigger upgrade/fix? 1st and last sig. Looking for something smaller than my M&P40. by Nick Leghorn |. The SP2022 manages to equal that performance, yet keep the price down to reach a wider audience. While the SP2022’s polymer handle may not be as strong as steel who’s gonna break it? In my professional opinion it is a superb weapon for the $$$, Just wanted to let everyone know that you can find holsters for the new variant SP2022 with the 4slot rail at KT. Ergonomics (Handling): * * * * thanks very much lee. They run between $ 35-40 a mag. Grips and holsters are fairly rare. Although the HK-45 had a tighter pattern, I am still very impressed with this Sig Sauer SP2022 – my very first SIG!! For those who would argue that if the US Army adopts a handgun, then it must be the finest in the world, let me remind you that the US Army also adopted the Beretta 92FS as standard issue. I think he might notice the locked back slide before he noticed the indicator. Glock or S&W 4506 on duty but can’t find a thing to ciomplain about it even my wife will shoot it once in awhile to swap out her FNP. Sig designed the SP2022 (a.k.a., SIG Pro 2022) as France’s replacement for the aging PAMAS handgun (licensed copies of the Beretta 92FS). I reckon it ruins the gun’s minimalistic magic. However it is a service pistol, where a heavy-ish trigger is seen as an extra safety feature to help prevent accidental and negligent discharges. The 2022 is heavy enough to mitigate the 40 S&W recoil using 180 gr rounds, comes right back on target, but light enough to carry all day IWB. Nite sights, de-cocker, 15 +1 capacity, weight and price, what’s not to love! SIG SAUER INC Standard *CA Approved* Sig SP20229BSSCA SP2022 *CA Approved* 9mm NS 3.9 in 10+1 Blk Poly Grips Nitron The Sig Sauer SP2022 features a durable, lightweight, and wear-resistant polymer frame with the added tactical versatility of an integrated accessory rail. His daily concealed carry handgun is a Glock 26 in a Lenwood Holsters Specter IWB or his Sig Sauer SP2022 in a Dara Holsters Appendix IWB holster. While Sig lavishes much of their attention on the P320 and the Legion series of handguns, the SP2022, one of Sig’s earliest polymer frame pistols, continues to fly under the radar for most shooters. The SP2022’s significantly lighter than the P226 (a.k.a., ballistic boat anchor); suitable for everyday carry. As I have said before, Romney gets the NRA endorsement because he kept it from being worse for Massachusetts gun owners. Detail of larger backstrap with lanyard ring. It is also very accurate. The slide comes off of the frame and the barrel and guide rod can be removed. Of all those the Python was the best slickest revolver and the BDA Browning (P220 Sig by another name) was a bit better than the composite Sig or HK. It is also not a blowback gun. I have a Sig .40 and the magazine capacity is 15 rounds. With the current Exeter SP2022 gone is the German quality, better finish and 2 Mecgar mags and all the other goodies. It is a near perfect combination of affordability and quality, and would be an ideal pistol for a new shooter to learn on. I don’t recall ever missing to hit a target even when the criterion was head shots only. A trip back to the gun shop and two different people trying in vain to make it work got the pistol shipped back to sig. But not horrid. Their customer service people are total smart asses with no help unless you want to spent a fortune. A novice will find it easy to handle, then there is the experienced shooter; They will find this a really good and easy to shoot firearm! Some 250k SP2022’s are now in Gallic hands. The trigger is not my favorite but with practice I feel more comfortable with it. The grip shape is close enough for rock and roll. Or “BORE AXIS”, or “Trigger RESET/SEAR” please….seriously, if people would spend half as much time practicing with their firearm as they do posting crap excuses on the internet as to why they cant shoot…imagine what would happen….they wouldn’t have a reason to jump on the internet and post anything other than how well a firearm shoots, my reasoning behind this is I shoot a M&P, XDM, 24/7, 92, 99, SP2022, 226, and 1911 equally well. SIG SAUER, Inc. is a leading provider and manufacturer of firearms, electro-optics, ammunition, airguns, suppressors, and training. It still weights more empty that a glock 19 does loaded. I would recommend this gun to anyone. And yet, at their low price, they’re understandably selling like hotcakes. what sights are on your 228? I paid $412 for it back in 2000 and they are still around $400 – to $500 13 years later. Winner! I’m shopping. It is well built and extremely user friendly as all the controls are right where God intended. Mec-Gar makes some great products (I highly recommend their 8 round 1911 mags), but I have had mixed results with some. Sigs are expensive (except for Sig Pro’s) but you get quality. In fact, the sexy Sigs made the top 20 list for the best selling guns. New From LaserLyte: Kryptonyte Center Mass Laser, http://thetruthaboutguns.com/author/foghorn/, Diamondback DBX57 Video Review: 5.7x28mm Piston-Driven Pistol, Carolyn Maloney Five Gun Control Bills Are More Dangerous Than Sheila Jackson Lee’s Absurd Legislation, Be Careful About Posting Gun Pictures Online, Especially in New York. The SP2022 features a durable, lightweight and wear-resistant polymer frame with an integrated M1913 accessory rail. The nasty attitude and piss poor service soured me on Sig. Nick, you’re a SIG fanboy but you’re still an alright guy. The only people really making aftermarket parts are Sig Sauer themselves, but they’re turning out a ton of stuff. Le Sig built the SP2022 for a service lifetime of 20 years, hence the model designation. So part of my story is the BS I got from Sig. The guide rod is made of polymer, but stainless replacements are available for extra durability. (PT Firearms, Cross Plains, Wi…Great place with outstanding help!) And a Glock 30. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! It is however a bit different from more traditional Sig Sauer pistols. Really What the hell is that. I would recommend this gun to folks that aren’t yet comfortable with a strikers fire pistol. Hey guys concerning holsters for the SP2022 I found that IMI defense has one really nice holster that provides level 3 type security and I put my SP into it and it was an exact fit. They’re everywhere. Oct 31, 2012 |. MSRP:                 $494 ($400 Buds). Trigger on this model is one of, if not the best of all my other SIGS. I realize Sig wants everyone to buy their higher priced models and yes I would love a new 226, but I think they need to advertise this little jewel more. They had me send it back and they replaced a faulty part and I have never had the problem since. Aliengear has been great for me. I’ll probably replace it with a M&P Pros for the longer sight radius. May pick one up myself. Of course, practically any service-size 9mm (polymer or no) is going to be more controllable than any current compact specimen, but with this one, the difference was fairly negligible. I have owned my 9mm SP 2022 for about six months now. Secret Service also carry this weapon. Sig is NOT a quaility firearm. Took my new “Pig” out and was very impressed. As if sig makes guns that won’t run 115 grain ball, the second most ubiquitous round on earth! GH is a Marine Corps veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and has served as a defense contractor in Afghanistan in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. I paid $660 for the P226 in 1992 and they have gone up 25% for a plain basic model to 150% for a competition model and anywhere in between depending on which version you buy. But the 7mm Remington Magnum (Rem Mag) has a cult-like following. Well, in fairness, the P210 is not really a bazillion dollars, but merely a little south of four times the cost of a P226. Everything about the gun feels neutral. Price has a lot to do with it. The SP2022 is equipped with a Ballistic Accuracy Extreme System (BAXS), which improves your accuracy with every shot. Sig Sauer, Colt, SA, and Berettas are the go to guns IMO. My only complaint is the mags. There customer service is the worst. No, no SRT for the SP2022 or the SIGPRO that came before it. It does not detract from the statements I made. For reliability alone, I have become a Sig Sauer man. I,m the person who shelled out the 450.00 dollars for a gun that needs 200 dollars more in sights that work for me. My advice? I was lucky enough to get a French contract over-run made in Germany. keep the topic on the Gun, the guy you referenced was using Metaphors, take your “issue” somewhere else please. Never liked them & never will own one. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. with it so much so I carry it every day. Not to mention that god awful grip angle that Glock is known for. Every MA gun owner I’ve come across outside of TTAG has said Mitt royally screwed them and they provided links showing how the NRA has been white-washing what Mitt did to make it look like Mitt helped them out. I bought an SP2340 in 357 sig when they first came out, and the gun wad accurate and ate any ammo I fed it. Just got my 2nd 2022 last week. I am not saying it doesn’t take a few shots to transition from one gun to another but by no means have i found any modern firearm produced within the last 20 years to be garbage, Sure some have had issues which when sent in to the MFG were fixed. With a 1911 I’m lethal. It had some problems initially with the slide locking back even without a magazine in the gun, sent gun back to Sig Sauer. Accuracy: * * * * * And best part is I payed $329.00 plus tax for it with the SIG sauer carry case 2 mags(15+1) and a extra grip (02 installed 03 as spare) with night sights. But for you I will do it again…..I have a SP2022 I have no issue with the sights, I have over 750 rounds through the gun, have not had a issue of any kind with any ammo I have run through it. steel guide rod. Can I carry my SIG 2022 40c with one chamber and will it fire if dropped on the hammer? and paid $28 ea. But with that high performance comes an equally high price tag. The actual bits that move along the rails of the slide and keep the gun running are also metal, set into the grip. I never had a problem hitting a “bad-guy” sized target at league distances. The SP2022 comes with a standard Picatinny rail on the front for all your accessories needs. contrast? . same folks who derided the Beretta when it was adopted by the US Army. of various 9mm I trust the weapon to do For those who call the SIG Pro “garbage” because it is inaccurate, go to the SIG web site and read the FAQ’s in the Customer Service section. Test fired at 5-10-15 yards gun was 3 inches low at 5 yards 6 inches at 10 yards and 9 inches at 15 yards. Lucky are those who got it in $400, in South Africa I got it for R9500.00. The mp40 was my first/only 40. I never really looked close at Sigs, and so I asked to see it and tried out the D/A trigger pull and I was sold! Sig seemed to even go as far as taking styling cues from the P226. Having fired roughly 1800 rds. I’m not a fan of the Sig’s loaded chamber indicator (LCI). People get on forums and complain about anything they can from “Weight” in this case in reference of a SP2022 vs Glock 17 (5.35oz) seriously I’m not even going start on that. The guns’ functions are identical, both in terms of trigger pull feel and the single action/double action mechanics. The purpose of an LCI is that when you have a gun holstered or otherwise stored, you can easily tell if the gun has one in the chamber or not. I’ve been waiting for this review for a year and change (when I started visiting TTAG). It’s going to take some training to correct that habit. Are you serious? Why does this gun shoot low? It is so coincidental that you should say that – and TRUE that they are underrated! France, however, saw something in the design and adopted a modifi… I’ve always thought about getting one but never quite pulled the trigger. I had to do a double take when I saw your moniker…I used to race a 1974 Montesa VR (Vekhonen Replica) and loved that bike…later got a 360 with the 4-speed gear box with a couple o’ tons of torque. Shortly after I received the weapon the hammer began to fall back forward after firing like a DAO. The SP2022’s slide stop extends past the trigger. . Try it my friend, every once in a while mistakes are made. Guns and Gear in Agawam, MA has both the 9mm and .40 versions. At the gun shop I held a Glock 19 and the Sig… the Sig just felt better in my hand. It’s my EDC. Even in single action mode, there’s more slack than a coiled rope. The Sig Sauer SP2022 is compact enough for concealed carry but still has a high-capacity magazine. Gotta get the P320 next. But I know damn well if I have an empty or loaded chamber. The SP2022 was my first handgun. On a side note when I first bought my Sig pro it was terribly inaccurate, I removed the polymer guide rod and replaced it with a stainless steel guide rod and now it is the tits when it comes to accuracy. I’ve seen them at my local store for $399.99. Soldier in Europe, wanna ask him what he saw? (where permitted by law). Now you get a cardboard box with a pistol and ONE mag. If your SP2022 does not have the loaded chamber indicator, you can convert it from 40 S&W to .357 sig by merely replacing the barrel only. Then he told me it was more than half the price of a 226….it came with a holster and 2 extra mags….and a grip addition. I have only fired about 400 rounds through it so it is not yet my carry firearm. I’m not a fan of the combat sight either but if I shoot mine right it’s accurate and I’ve had maybe 5 fte’s out of over 2k rounds. its job when needed. The reviews on Sigs I’ve read generally run about 99% positive and even the “bad” ones are based on personal preference. It hits 10 inch plates at 25 yards every time (once you get the point of impact, which is low and obscured by the sights at that distance) The SP2022 on the other hand brings to the table the quality that we expect from Sig Sauer and at an affordable price. It’s lighter than my P229 and much cheaper to shoot than the .357 Sig rounds. I bought a new one in 40 cal a few weeks ago and it does not have one. In the used market the SP2022 can be found for around $350 — an excellent price for a quality handgun that you can depend your life on. I bought the drop down platform to go with it for tactical operations as I am a Leo. They replaced the slide lock with a new one(not the rolled pin one) gun still had problems. But there are some distinct differences . In the 1990s, Sig Sauer noticed both Glock and HK eating into their market share with polymer framed pistols and decided to enter this market with the SIG Pro series. Keeping in tradition with Sig’s P220 family of handguns, the SP2022 is a double-to-single action handgun and is de-cocker only. Le Sig built the SP2022 for a service lifetime of 20 years, hence the model designation. Have maybe 1500 rnds through it. Barrel:                3.9″ The gun does exactly what it was meant to do. Stop hating on the loaded indicator man. Partners . No need to pay extra for new sights, just put the “Dot” on what your shooting at…..and call it a day. Inexpensive, built tough, reliable and accurate. My local gunsmith found the problem very quickly, a metal burr inside the top slide in front of ejection port, ground it off, end of slide problem. I’ve been looking at getting one for a while and its hard to find in depth reviews. Wife bought one of the contract overruns from BassPro a few years ago as a birthday present. I bought mine 2 yrs ago. I run the 19s in my 226. Extras are $40-50 a pop and they’re not made by MecGar anymore, generic Checkmate has taken over that role. etc. A Picatinny rail under the barrel is also standard on all examples. Not one failure. I ran a bunch of different loads off my single stage press and concluded that the pistol and I were just not going to get along. Great review. If you would like to see what the majority of SP2022 owners have to say…I suggest you take a lil trip over to either of the sig forums, or heck look at the reviews done on You Tube….Of course you wouldnt do that because no one over there is going to pat you on the head and tell you its ok or yeah your right, Joe. An LCI indicates to the bad guy you are holding at gunpoint that you are empty? Extraordinarily accurate, very reliable, and easy to handle and shoot, one of the P220’s cardinal attributes is the cartridge for which it is chambered: the .45 ACP. When I purchase a gun I don’t feel I should have to pay hundreds of dollars more to correct a problem that started at the factory and the correct sights are not even available from the manufacturer. The reset isn’t that bad on the Sig either. I don’t care if it is the most accurate 9mm ever made, that lever and pin has got to go. The list is around $40, so YMMV…. The Sig has a hammer and true DA/SA action. Just a personal pref. Want to trade? Night sights come standard as usual. If you cannot adjust to the factory sight, then that is a issue of yours not the guns, by getting onto a forum and calling the gun garbage because you CANNOT adopt or adjust to the sights does not mean the gun is a POS, it means you have 2 options (1) practice with the gun and become proficient or (2) sell the gun, quit whining and find something you are comfortable shooting. Magnum legends: .300 Win Mag vs. 7mm Rem Mag. The french have good taste in food, wine, art and guns. Wow, I must be lucky then, I got my SIG 228 for about $500, and thats including shipping and payment to my ffl…. Cleaning her was just as fun. I shoot good groupings, and I am far from the best shot, so I don’t know what others are talking about it being inaccurate. The vast vast majority of criminals know a whole lot about drugs and alcohol, but precioius little about guns. This might be my entry level ticket to Sig ownership. The handgun has gained far more acceptance among shooters, and the US Army recently adopted the weapon. They suck on many levels – if you buy one of their Yugo’s you get what you get good luck, if it does not work when you need it, dead men don’t sue, and Sig knows it. While the P226 offers a hard coat, anodized alloy frames the SP2022 comes with a polymer one. The process is the same everyday and everytime. What you’d expect from Sig. Cleaning is straight forward and as simple as it gets. I don’t know shit about shit, but I’m going to make this really lame tired inaccurate joke showing my complete ignorance of all things WWII!! The SP2022 has a width of 1.40” and the backstrap comfortably fit in the webbing of my hand and still permitted me to easily reach and pull the trigger with my trigger finger. Clearing the mess is hard to do quickly. It’s like having two pistols for the price of one and a barrel. It’s shorter, quicker, and feels a little better than the old version. OK, Just for an example. I wasn’t competitive in the local Monday night pistol league with the oem sights not being easily adjusted and all. The elder SIG is tried and tested to the point that trust is ingrained. All better triggers than the mp, just the Glock to bulky for small hands. the MA model code is SP2022M-9-BSS. How I wish Sig designed the 2022 to use the same mags as the P229. The range officer arranged for me to shoot this gun and with three magazines I removed the center of the target. have it checked out and serial numbers ran to double check its not been a stolen gun. (oops) Just read the above post…I will look into it. I just got a sp2022 But mine says US Secret Service on it. Mine doesn’t have the LCI either. I discovered this gun accidentally. Um ok So you have a issue with the way the sight is set up and you call the gun garbage? As for Glocks I could care less. You know,the ones that came with night sights, internal extractor, 2 mags, laser, Nitrite finish and an actual case etc. SIG joined Glock and HK as one of the few major firearms manufacturers to embrace a polymer frame at that time. All ratings are relative to other similar guns, and the final score IS NOT calculated from the constituent scores. I have 27,000+ rounds through mine. Then the second (or first) reason to buy is the price. Overused jokes to the contrary, I figure if the French give a seal of approval to a firearm, then it must certainly work well. Not great, but beats $46 per (Sig shop price). Its the image and adversicin of Glock that drives it, not the day in day out fucnion for the averge shooter who is inecpt (having spend plenty of time o nthe range anyone can tell yuy that is true). (Photo: Francis Borek). Its a touch top heavy thanks to the metal slide and polymer grip, but it works. Your inability to accurately shoot a Sig is a rare occurrence. The Dual part of the take up is intended to be long and hard, its a safety feature that the Glock totally lacks (notorious for, Glock Leg and or Glock Butt) . I’ve never had a single FTF/FTE with my 2022, even with a loose one handed grip. Great guns, shoot very well. don’t know if someone else mentioned this but the loaded chamber indicator shown in this review is not the Massachusetts model. JFH or Joe Heinrichs, Joe Heinrichs says: A textured slim backstrap with a lanyard ring and a much larger variant come standard. Its all about the idea of aimed fire and not spraying lead. it’s convertible SA trigger is better than a Glock, Also, throw in a 1/2 point for NOT being a Glock. Normally I don,t comment back to people whom don,t post there name much less there opinion. . Currently, SIG offers full-size and compact versions of the P320, in both 9mm and .40 S&W, with .357 SIG versions on the way. It came with a couple of grips, and was one of the first to feature such interchangeable grips. I found replacing the polymer guide rod with a Steve Bedair stainless steel guide rod took away the torquing of the gun. I’ve owned a 226,228,229,239 and now have one left; a 2022. The other Bone stock and I shoot USPSA production class with it. That said, the real Sig Sauer SP2022 has a polymer frame, so it really wouldn't make sense to do a metal version for airsoft. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. This pistol is the first gun I bought a couple of years ago. Very few, if any. Once, when a shoulder harness failed, the loaded weapon fell out and landed on a concrete porch, hammer first. Basicly its the worst handgun I have owned. Unique. I have had my SP2022 for a year and a half. I do love the loaded indicator on my Steyr M9-A1 though – it’s a little pin that pokes out just a fraction of an inch on the back of the slide and there are horizontal serrations on the back of the slide, so you can easily brush your thumb over it when gripping your gun and tell if there’s one in the chamber or not. My next handgun purchase will be another Sig, of that I am certain. If you order one from Buds Gunshop you will likely get a used one that was sold as new. Much like the P226, practice often in order to overcome the heavy trigger. And in a Cross Breed STD, it’s a pleasure to carry all day. The .300 Winchester Magnum (Win Mag) has reigned supreme for nearly 60 years and is one of America’s most prolific cartridges. Still, being relatively new in the world, it has yet to truly reveal itself — for example, the P320 is also a striker-fired handgun, and with that comes the spongy trigger that plagues all striker-fired handguns. So I shoot the SP2022 and the trigger is lacking. First came the SP 2340 chambered in the wonder calibers of the age: .40 S&W and .357 SIG. Weight:              29 oz. Have not had an issue finding magazines Do the sig sp2022 won’t take sig p226 mags? Complaints to sig, and to various gunsmiths elicit the same head scratching disbelief that my sig doesn’t run. ... A forum community dedicated to SIG Sauer Pistols and SIG Sauer Rifles owners and enthusiasts. (SP2022 9mm) Not to mention, I have put over 100 rounds through it at approximately 20 yards. My local guns store (San Antonio’s Academy) stocks SP2022’s aplenty. . As such, I prefer the slim backstrap. For over 150 years SIG SAUER, Inc. has evolved, and thrived, by blending American ingenuity, German engineering, and Swiss precision. I carry mine with 15 in the mag and 1 in the chamber. Mec-Gar offers magazines and can be found online for around $30 to $35. I purchased both the 9mm and the 40. That’s the rough equivalent of being a flat-earther or a Holocaust- denier. Eats any ammo, but some of the wolf ammo gets jammed in the mags due to the rough metal they use for the mags. Yes the problem is that sig was not particularly interested in taking it back and suggested I use 125 grain bullets….etc. Sorry you don’t agree. I often shoot it to 50 yards without a problem. First and foremost is the reputation of the SP2022 when compared to some of Sig’s more recent polymer framed offerings offerings. Just my 2cents…. I wanted a sig 226 because I had carried a 226 on duty as a police officer…as I was looking it over I noticed another sig om a lower shelf…I asked what’s that ? Came w/ 3 mags, night-sights (changed to 24-7 big dot have them on all my pistols possible) found a leather & a blackhawk holster for it. I understand the political angle you’re putting in there and it might not suit your aesthetics, but BS’ing that a bad guy can use it to tell if your gun is loaded is just pushing it too far.
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